11 December 2014
Poland: a nine-year-old girl NOT to be extradited to Norway
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original of this article is from 13-28 December 2011. An
English version seems relevant in 2014 in the light of
recent worries about Norwegian child protection (CPS) in
Russia and the Czech Republic.
The translations from Norwegian newspapers are mine.
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In June of 2011 a Polish girl was rescued from a 'temporary
foster-home' with the help of a Polish private investigator
/ actionist who is said to help people when the official
police and the court system fail to do their job.
Norwegian child protection service has tried to insist that
the girl has been abducted illegally and must therefore be
handed over and taken back to Norway. Her parents have
moved home to Poland, which suits Norwegian CPS down to the
ground. The girl would then be quite alone here, completely
in the hands of the CPS and the foster persons they would
force on her, her Polish language would be suppressed and
neglected, perhaps in the long run making fully
satisfactory communication with her parents impossible,
were she even to succeed in getting back to them after many
years as a slave in the lucrative child protection industry
But Norway has not succeeded so far in the court-case they
brought in Poland. The court has passed judgment: The girl
is not to be extradited by Norway. Common sense from a
Polish court, in other words.
Bortført jente (9) blir ikke sendt
tilbake fra Polen (Abducted
girl (9) will not be sent back from Poland)
Norsk barnevern i retten i
CPS in court in Poland)
Among the dirty tricks which Norwegian authorities have
tried to win through with, is to demand the case be tried
as an abduction case under the Hague Convention. Its
provisions, apparently, mostly concern cases in which one
parent abducts a child from the other parent. But in
Norway, the CPS is the plaintiff who is best served by the
Convention, since it applies not only between parents, but
also when a child is taken abroad without permission from
whoever holds the legal guardianship or custody. In CPS
cases, the CPS normally have all legal rights.
Poland has luckily not given in to Norway in this; they
have treated the case as an ordinary child protection case,
with submission of evidence, and have placed great emphasis
on the fact that the girl was not happy in the 'temporary
foster home' but wanted to be with her parents:
municipality wanted the initial step to be for the court to
judge as to the legality of the abduction. But Polish
authorities chose to handle this as an ordinary child
protection case, with extensive presentation of evidence
and examination of witnesses.
– The case has grown to somewhat larger
proportions than what we had thought. But it is important
on principle, in order to avoid further abductions, says
the head of the CPS."
Norway is an eager champion of a system in which the state
through the CPS shall practice full power over children,
parents being considered trivial. It hardly suits Norwegian
authorities that the
content of oppositional
actions against the CPS is made public and is demonstrated
through presentation of evidence. "– - many in
Poland find it difficult to understand the reason why the
girl was taken from her parents at all."
yes, I am certain many Poles found it difficult, because in
truth no reason exists or existed to destroy the most
valuable possession of this nine-year-old child: her family
A statement from the same power-hungry CPS leader, Mona
" – There is
simply a difference between what we in Norway think is ok
to grow up with and what the Polish child protection agency
thinks, says the Norwegian head of the CPS."
Comment: No, there is primarily a great difference in what
the two agencies think it is all right to grow up
without. In Norway this
powerful agency considers it to be fine to grow up without
one's own parents, and without the freedom to flee from
'care persons' back to the parents. Family love is
violated, and that is fine in Norway, regardless of how
unhappy the girl becomes.
One understands from reading the statements from this
Norwegian head of CPS Thormodsrud that 'they' (= Norwegian
CPS administration and their lawyers, probably) will "read
the judgment" before they decide on a possible appeal!
Nobody ought to be surprised if they do appeal.
The Polish court holds that the girl would be harmed by
being taken by force back to Norway – yes indeed, quite
right. Is there any nine-year-old child who would not be
harmed by effectively being turned into an orphan quite
needlessly and kept in captivity? Ah, but Thormodsrud
" – If we had
thought the girl would be harmed by it, we would not have
made this demand. We do not believe she would get better
conditions for care in Poland, says the leader of the local
CPS in Andebu in Vestfold, Mona Thormodsrud."
is the opinion of the Norwegian child protection service.
"conditions for care" . . . ? ! God have mercy on us all.
And despite such revealing talk the Norwegian people does
not understand that we
do not have a public
service which protects children? We won't be having any
such thing until the 'child experts' now employed are
removed completely from anything to do with children and
parents, until the present education and training of such
'experts' are abolished, until Norway starts building a
totally new, sensible social service from rock bottom. We
are without such a social service.
The so-called Rambo, who got the nine-year-old girl out,
talks sensibly and wisely in interviews; what he says
should call for respect, not ridicule and suspicion:
" - I
believe they [the court] made the only right decision. The
child was not happy in the temporary foster home, she
wanted to be with her parents. If I had the possibility of
doing so, I would fetch her from Norway once again, even if
it meant prison for me, he says."
The consul from the Polish embassy who was sacked, Adrianne
Warchol, deserves to be held in high esteem too. She has
said that Norwegian child protection echoes Hitlerjugend.
- Kaster ut polsk konsul i
Oslo (– Throws out
Polish consul in Oslo)
NRK (the national,
public broadcasting company) 12.10.2011
This indeed is the welfare society of Norway. Incredible?
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28 December 2011
A small addition to the above illustrates perfectly the
tragi-comic character of Norwegian child protection and all
its enthusiastic helpers. It is once again an article on
the website of NRK Vestfold (the county where the Polish
girl was held captive), penned by one Trine Lejon Tjønnås,
with the heading:
Bortført 9-åring må bli i
Polen (Abducted girl must stay in
It is hardly surprising that this heading is copied without
change onto the web site of Norsk Barnevernsamband
(Norwegian Child Protection Association):
9-åring må bli i Polen
(but the link has been removed.)
There are indeed other nuances of meaning to Norwegian "må"
(must) than force against the nine-year-old child, such as
"må få" ('must be allowed to'), or 'has to, in order to be
protected from Norwegian child protection'. Or perhaps the
author of the article is Swedish (cf her middle name) and
believes that Norwegian "må" equals Danish "må", which
however means 'may be allowed to' / 'is allowed to', which
corresponds to the real situation here ?
Still, I suspect that the intended meaning is the central
one, 'has to', and this is the meaning readers will without
doubt base their reading on. With this meaning, then –
'poor little girl kidnapped away from the safe Norwegian
child protection people and exposed to her terrible parents
whom she hates', – one jumps, as is so often done in
Norway, right into the messy soup of meaningless
descriptions, distortions, concealments, and let us not
forget: blatant lies, which are standard in all child
protection cases, either served up by the CPS themselves,
or by the press.
This leads once again to the everlasting question: What
does the conduct of Norway and our CPS in this case
indicate about all the other
cases handled or
created by the CPS – I mean, when they have the time and
resources, and give top priority to, taking this girl away
from her parents, and then send people to Poland to bring
action before a Polish court to have her perforce returned
to Norway, completely
against her wishes?